| Identifier | 9714624 |
| Created At | Tue May 23 2023 23:54:00 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time) |
| Reference Number | MB5 |
| Media Type | CDR |
| Media Count | 1 |
| Note | WSM Broadcast>Disc Recorder>R>?>C>Flac |
| Source Info | radio broadcasts(c.1947) > 78rpm Discs(recorded with 'Recordio Wilcox-Gay Disc Recorder') > reel(mid 1960's) > unknown generations of reel & cassette but probably not many > cassette > wav > Soundforge(EQ,normalise) > Trader's Little Helper(Fix SBE's-pad) > flac(6)
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| Tech Note | Roy and Lonnie and Their Pals KFEQ, St. Joseph, Missouri c.1935/36 or WAAW, Omaha, Nebraska c.1936/37 01 Lonesome Valley Sally 02 The House Where We Were Wed 03 Bury Me Under The Weeping Willow Tree 04 Maple On The Hill 05 Pretty Little Bird 06 Jesse James 07 When The Saints Go Marching In 08 Kitty Wells 09 Long, Long Ago 10 The Little Ranch House on the Old Circle B 11 In The Pines 12 The Cowboys Meditation 13 Leather Britches 14 Shake Hands With Mother Again 15 Southern Texas Blues [ 16 Mary Of The Wild Moor 17 Where The Soul Never Dies 18 Closing Announcement 19 talk by Ray & Ina Patterson (recorded mid 60's) Roy & Lonnie are Roy McGeorge & Lonnie Robertson. Lonnie played mandolin & fiddle, so presumably it's Roy on guitar, and they both sang. radio broadcast(mid 1930's) > 78rpm Transcription Discs > radio broadcast > 33 1/3rpm Transcription Discs > reel(mid 1960's) > unknown generations of reel & cassette but probably not many > cassette > wav > Soundforge(EQ,normalise) > Trader's Little Helper(Fix SBE's-pad) > flac(6) These recordings come from the Ray Patterson tape. Ray Patterson is a country musician, and in the mid to late 60's he made a tape of some of the records in his collection, and spoke between some of the tracks explaining a little about them. This was copied for friends and traded around by collectors. The tape starts with Roy & Lonnie. I searched for any official releases of Roy & Lonnie and found *nothing at all* (although Lonnie recorded some albums without Roy many years later). The only evidence I found for *ANY* recordings even existing is some transcription discs in a university collection ( http://www.lib.unc.edu/mss/inv/k/Kahn,Ed.html ) listed as "Roy and Lonnie *with* Their Pals", although the announcer says "Roy and Lonnie *and* Their Pals" in this recording : "Tune in again tomorrow evening for another program of Roy & Lonnie & their pals Hank & JC, brought to you by the makers of the new Pirrona(?)". Does anyone know what Pirrona is? After the Roy & Lonnie tracks Ray & his wife Ina tell us that Roy & Lonnie got a transcription company to make the recordings onto 78rpm transcription discs, not for a commercial release, just for themselves to have a recording of their songs, so it's likely only one set of discs were made. He goes on to say that these discs were then copied onto 33rpm transcription discs, and says these weren't the microgroove discs we know today but transcription discs played with a 78 needle. Then Ina adds that the discs were played over the air and recorded ("they were cut from off the air again"). Despite this weird lineage they sound very good for something of this age! I made up the title for track 15 because it was the only song I couldn't find on the net by typing a sample of the lyrics. I found the first verse of the song here as "East Virginia Blues" with the place names changed : http://junecarter.wetpaint.com/page/East+Virginia+Blues Some of the songs are very old, dating back to the 1800's. Then after telling us about the Roy & Lonnie discs Ray plays some of the recordings he made himself with a "Recordio" disc cutter he purchased in 1946... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was unsure about adding these next tracks as bonus tracks so emailed the mods explaining what the recording consisted of and got this reply from Nightshifted "We're usually not keen on bonus tracks from other shows, but in this case, we'd gauge them to be of interest to the same people who would want the Ray & Lonnie and their Pals material, so it is OK to put them into the same torrent. But that's something for a case-by-case decision." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Millie & Sue Grand Ole Opry, KMOX, St. Louis, Missouri, c.1947 20 Gonna Lay Down My Old Guitar 21 Brown Eyes Millie Bybee and Sue Bybee. Millie on mandolin and Sue on guitar. Bill Monroe & The Bluegrass Boys, with Don Reno Grand Ole Opry, WSM, Nashville, Tennessee, late 1947 22 Cripple Creek / Fleming's Wallrite / station ident/ American Ace Coffee (Minnie Pearl) 23 White House Blues 24 [Unknown Instrumental] / Fleming's Wallrite / station ident / American Ace Coffee radio broadcasts(c.1947) > 78rpm Discs(recorded with 'Recordio Wilcox-Gay Disc Recorder') > reel(mid 1960's) > unknown generations of reel & cassette but probably not many > cassette > wav > Soundforge(EQ,normalise) > Trader's Little Helper(Fix SBE's-pad) > flac(6) Again, looking for official releases of Millie & Sue they appear to have released nothing at all, all I found was one appearance on a transcription disc of a 1951 radio show, and I didn't find any Bill Monroe releases that match this, and just to make sure I asked someone else who's more knowledgable on the subject and he'd never heard of them. In the Bill Monroe recording the voiceover guy does the sponsor commercial while Bill Monroe continues to play his music in the background. The announcer says "See the new 1948 patterns at your Wallright dealer now", so I'm assuming the broadcast is late 1947, in the same way as I've heard commercials for "See the new 1955 Desoto at your dealer now" in episodes of You Bet Your Life from late '54 for example, so giving the customer a chance to see the new product in the fall of the previous year. Next on the tape were some of Ray Patterson's recordings of Lefty Frizzell from 1946 which I can't include as they're tracks 1-3,5-8 of the Lefty Frizzell - "Life's Like Poetry" box set. A shame as the box set horribly butchers Lefty's radio show tracks, cutting all the station announcements as well as playing them at too slow a speed, but rules is rules. The tape concluded with 3 tracks that I don't even know who it is, so they're omitted also. |
| Trades Allowed |
Performance
| Bill Monroe & the Bluegrass Boys 1947-??-?? Grand Ole Opry, Nashville, TN | |
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| Set 1 | Cripple Creek White House Blues Instrumental |
| Set 2 | |
| Set 3 | |
| Comment | Contains commercials between songs for Fleming's Wallrite and American Ace Coffee.
From the text file: "In the Bill Monroe recording the voiceover guy does the sponsor commercial while Bill Monroe continues to play his music in the background. The announcer says "See the new 1948 patterns at your Wallright dealer now", so I'm assuming the broadcast is late 1947, in the same way as I've heard commercials for "See the new 1955 Desoto at your dealer now" in episodes of You Bet Your Life from late '54 for example, so giving the customer a chance to see the new product in the fall of the previous year." |