Identifier | 9132030 |
Created At | Tue May 23 2023 23:54:00 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time) |
Media Type | cdr |
Media Count | 1 |
Show Rating | A |
Sound Rating | A |
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Performance
John Coltrane & Stan Getz 1960-03-28 Rhinehalle, Düsseldorf, Germany | |
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Set 1 | JATP All Stars 1960
in D?sseldorf March 28, 1960 From Fuji (the Trane discography) the venue is probably: Rheinhalle This date is probably correct - previously the set of the Miles Davis Quintet without Miles has been dated Apr 1, 1960: - This is in Trane discographical history usually given as 1 April (a wrong date 4 April also circulates), with the JATP circus being in Munich on 28 March. But the editorial team of planned Fuji II confirms this new date (priv comm) The lineage of this tape is described as RB?>?>CD-R with a source denoted as "Probably FM-Sbd" To this you may add >EAC secure mode>flac frontend level 7 ASB verify The set info I got with this was somewhat confused: John Coltrane,ts Stan Getz,ts[t4-5] Wynton Kelly,p[t1-4] Oscar Peterson,p[t5] Paul Chambers,b Jimmy Cobb,dr tr 1 1) On Green Dolphin Street 9:08 > tr 2 2) Walkin' [set list timing 7:30] > The Theme ...10:41 The track numbers here does not correspond to the track indices of the original disc - which I have retained as they were. These first two indices (t1-3 in the numbering above) forms the known contributions of the Miles Davis Quintet to the 1960 JATP tour in Dusseldorf - but Miles was sick that day - hence it is usually denoted as the "John Coltrane quartet" performing this day in D?sseldorf. The sonic upgrade these represent from the circulating tapes is substantial. [Original set list notes a 3) Blues (W.K. Trio) 3:22 This is evidently a reference to The Theme signature included under track 2] Track 3: 4) JATP Feature Ballad Medley: [noted as 8:40] [Described as Yesterdays (PC,feat)/2:42/Autumn Leaves (WK,feat)/4:45/What's New (JC,feat)/6:45/Autumn In New York[but is actually Moonlight in Vermont] (SG,feat.)]/8:50/ (splice @ 09:00 with Rifftide) (my timing of transitions) 5) > Rifftide 8:23 - /TT track 3 17:13 There is a splice at 9:00 - it's actually two separate items - Rifftide that follows is an item on its own. There's some fascinating exchanges between Trane and Getz in this - the first part no 4, being Norman Grantz style Feature Medley has of course no interaction. Wynton's fingering at the end(?) of the actual medley no 4, and just before the splice suggests there is more here - this has the character of intro - not outtro! But this is something that has not emerged yet. We mawy hope.... Rifftide: Oscar Peterson replaces Wynton Kelly.This has later been confirmed to me from the Fuji II team. This is now the ONLY occasion documented of Stan and Trane together. Now a crucial question is of course, given the nature of these JATP tours in Europe: * Was this playing together of Trane and Stan special for the D?sseldorf concert (as a compensation for Miles' sick leave perhaps?) Or * Was this done at other times on this 1960 JATP tour. The rest of the tape is Stan Getz Quartet, described as in the info as Stan Getz,ts Jan Johansson (orginal info said Lou Levy. But it IS JJ+)), p Ray Brown,b Ed Thigpen,dr playing Tr 4 6) Out of Nowhere 10:21 > tr 5 7) The Thrill Is Gone tr 6 8) (appl fade in) Out of Nowhere 9:10 > tr 7 9) Woody'n You 7:42 (appl fade out/in) tr 8 10) Pernod 7:56 on the same date (March 28, 1960) Note that there are two versions of Out of Nowhere here. This suggests that actually two nights are documented here. +Stan brought Jan Johansson (the Swede* who played a lot at Montmartre in Copenhagen and with Stan around this time) with him from Copenhagen and Sweden for the JATP tour in 1960. |
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Comment | John Coltrane, Stan Getz, Oscar Peterson, Wynton Kelly, etc. From JATP. see detail for complete info. |