Identifier9006364
Created AtTue May 23 2023 23:54:00 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time)
Media TypeFLAC
Media Count1
Source Infocass (M?) > WAV > CD-R > EAC (secure) > shntool+CD WAVE (retracking) > FLAC (level 8)
J-Card CommentJOY DIVISION BAND ON THE WALL (?) MANCHESTER 13 MAR 1979 Lineage: cass (M?) > WAV > CD-R > EAC (secure) > shntool+CD WAVE (retracking) > FLAC (level 8) Taped by/transferred: ? / lammah Tracklisting: 01. THEY WALKED IN LINE 3:06 02. SHE's LOST CONTROL 3:56 03. SHADOWPLAY 3:52 04. NEW DAWN FADES 4:32 05. DAY OF THE LORDS 4:32 06. INSIGHT 3:38 07. DISORDER 3:09 08. THE ONLY MISTAKE 4:15 09. I REMEMBER NOTHING 6:36 10. SISTER RAY (CUT) 4:39 Total: 42:43 Flac fingerprints: 01 - They Walked In Line.flac:3511d0dedcfad7771b3c83dff63bdbac 02 - She's Lost Control.flac:e0761401956afd2357f6b10c6a35f4e9 03 - Shadowplay.flac:cb29f460461052f27847f0601c3da4ab 04 - New Dawn Fades.flac:768da88fe262e0bfec615e07ed2e052e 05 - Day Of The Lords.flac:2e5a4f2edac736b0dbdd3b87a040a1f1 06 - Insight.flac:94f2e130249539a9a4f653ad7c4a9b38 07 - Disorder.flac:fe617f4d18c2c1013120f9adbe558077 08 - The Only Mistake.flac:7b134f73748fa725bf0d9f69d6c8e050 09 - I Remember Nothing.flac:0bbf1aa93ca8e9892f7a5931122b0b67 10 - Sister Ray (cut).flac:e67c1f02bb2dc7800bc7a9c5f6581400 Filesize: 232 Mb Notes: THIS IS LIKELY THE POOREST SOUNDING JOY DIVISION GIG EXTANT (SAVE PERHAPS FOR KANT KINO BERLIN), SO IF YOU ARE EXPECTING HIGH FIDELITY STAY AWAY. You have been warned. Still, since this is very likely the very first Joy Division long-player, it has considerable historical interest, and as it stands, is a document of their nascent Unknown Pleasures material, if it were not for the distortion, likely due to the mic being overloaded, the recording is fairly clear between songs, actually. As if that were not bad enough, this gig was copied by having the playback of one cassette recorder being recorded by another one. However, there are "in-line" copies in existence and it is strongly suspected that this is one of them. Some testimonials: snotters: "For anyone else's benefit, I've heard Sam's copy and it's definitely an improvement on the more common version. But it's still only worth about 4/10 (as opposed to 1/10). Probably on a par with something like Leeds Roots Club, Newcastle City Hall and the inferior version of Blackpool 79" TJ: "We ain't gonna get a better copy of BOTW than Sam's I suspect, it's better than Dave Simpson's old copy was that I've had for 20 years. Pity, because it was a half decent gig, and I love these work in progress versions of songs, not that we got many from JD." See http://www.new-order.net/jd/gigs/jdgigs.htm#JD-790600 for notes about the performance and Ian's between-song quips. See http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/lwtua/vpost?id=488 (where the quotes above were drawn from) for a very interesting and involved discussion trying to pin down the exact date of this performance. It's my own belief now that this is from the 13 Mar 1979 Band On The Wall gig, as documented on the reproduction of the flier presented here: http://iancurtis.org/gigs/13-03-1979.html as it makes sense that any showcase of their new Unknown Pleasures material would first be presented in a venue at their hometown that they've performed at many times before, but this by no means is conclusive, read the thread for the details! What is agreed-upon is that the 03 Jul 1979 date that has been commonly given out is simply incorrect. I have not attempted to clean up the recording in any fashion, no NR, no re-EQ'ing, etc. For anybody who has downloaded this for me before, this has been retracked (split between Day Of The Lords and Insight) as well as a couple of corrections on inaccurate markers. Contact: updates@new-order.net (yes, new-order.net is my domain)
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Performance
Joy Division 1979-03-13 Band On The Wall Public House, Manchester, UK
Set 1They Walked In Line
She's Lost Control
Shadowplay
New Dawn Fades
Day Of The Lords
Insight
Disorder
The Only Mistake
I Remember Nothing
Sister Ray
Set 2
Set 3
CommentThis date remains uncertain.

March 13th 1979: Band On The Wall gig, as documented on the reproduction of the flier presented here: http://iancurtis.org/gigs/13-03-1979.html as it makes sense that any showcase of their new Unknown Pleasures material would first be presented in a venue at their hometown that they've performed at many times before, but this by no means is conclusive.
Other possible dates:
October 16th 1978
February 10th 1979
July 03rd 1979

The July 03rd 1979 date that has been commonly given out is incorrect.