| Identifier | 8161750 |
| Created At | Mon Apr 06 2009 14:19:02 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time) |
| Media Type | CDR |
| Media Count | 1 |
| Show Rating | A |
| Sound Rating | A |
| Source Info | SBD > Master Reel > Master Cassette? > Cassette > CoolEdit > Flac |
| Trades Allowed |
Source
| SHNID | Date | Venue | City | State | Archive Identifier |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 87356 | 1970-12-17 | Winterland | San Francisco | CA | |
| flac16; SBD > Master Reel > Master Cassette? > Cassette > CoolEdit > Flac | |||||
Performance
| Grateful Dead 1970-12-17 Winterland, San Francisco, CA | |
|---|---|
| Set 1 | Hard To Handle Candyman Me And My Uncle Cold Rain And Snow Dancing In The Street Uncle John's Band |
| Set 2 | |
| Set 3 | |
| Comment | 7/17/2018 Update - there is very good evidence and reason to believe that there was NO 12/17/70 show. Not at the Winterland, and not at The Matrix. According to Charlie Miller, this music comes from 10/4/70 & 10/5/70. A series of mixups and confusing events have led to the interpretation of a show on this date. For example, the date 12/17 and 12/23 come from Vault master tapes, but were the mixdown dates, not the event dates. See http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2010/10/mysterious-case-of-121770.html for all the answers. The venue is conjectural. Deadlists identifies it as the Matrix, based on Eaton's transcript of the vault reel. However, when Dick copied the show to cassette, he attached the following label: "Here is something I have, that was labeled 12/17/70 - Winterland." A long-standing confusion between this show and the Owsley benefit held at Winterland on 12/23/70, continues to infect GD tapelists. The first four songs, "Hard to Handle" through "Cold Rain and Snow," were put into general circulation by the Bay Area Tapers Group in the mid-1990s, and continue to be mislabeled as 12/23/70. |