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crozier: Jerry Garcia Band 1983-11-25
Identifier6243655
Created AtTue May 23 2023 23:54:00 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time)
Media Typefuji
Media Count2
NoteMatrix (SBD/AUD mix)

SBD:
SBD>?
orginal seed by Mike Lai, retracked by jakemerc

AUD:
(FOB) Unknown Mics -> Master Cassette -> Cassette -> Cassette
via Charlie Miller (edits and transfer) via Dave Lisuch (tapes):
Cassette (Sony TC-WE475) -> Sony R500 (Pass Through) ->
SEK'D Prodif Plus -> Samplitude Professional v8.01 -> FLAC/16

Matrix:
Both sources were downloaded FLACs/SHNs > WAV >
Vegas 5 > WAV > CD Wave > FLAC 16 (level 8)

Edited, mixed and converted by Chris Chappell
scarfireATliquidcityDOTcom
3/18/06
Tech NoteJerry Garcia Band Cleveland Music Hall Cleveland, OH 11-25-83 Sick Bits Vol. 17 Source: Matrix (SBD/AUD mix) SBD: SBD>? orginal seed by Mike Lai, retracked by jakemerc AUD: (FOB) Unknown Mics -> Master Cassette -> Cassette -> Cassette via Charlie Miller (edits and transfer) via Dave Lisuch (tapes): Cassette (Sony TC-WE475) -> Sony R500 (Pass Through) -> SEK'D Prodif Plus -> Samplitude Professional v8.01 -> FLAC/16 Matrix: Both sources were downloaded FLACs/SHNs > WAV > Vegas 5 > WAV > CD Wave > FLAC 16 (level 8) Edited, mixed and converted by Chris Chappell scarfireATliquidcityDOTcom 3/18/06 Set 1: d1t01 - tuning d1t02 - I'll Take A Melody d1t03 - Cats Under The Stars d1t04 - They Love Each Other d1t05 - Knockin' On Heaven's Door d1t06 - The Way You Do The Things You Do d1t07 - Run For The Roses Set 2: d2t01 - Sugaree d2t02 - Love In The Afternoon d2t03 - Rhapsody In Red d2t04 - Night They Drove Old Dixie Down -> d2t05 - Dear Prudence -> d2t06 - Tangled Up In Blue Total Times: Disc 1 [54:40] Disc 2 [69:08] _________________________________________ General Notes: Since Charlie Miller recently seeded a very nice 1st or 2nd row FOB AUD, with plenty of Garcia's guitar in the mix, I decided to couple it with the well circulated SBD since that source was woefully lacking in the guitar in the mix factor, due to the fact that Garcia's stage volume was plenty loud and little reinforcement was needed from the SBD, especially in the first few tunes of the first set. The mix of the SBD improves by Knockin', but Jerry stays relatively low in the mix for the rest of the show; thus, having plenty of him in the AUD, allow the two sources to work well together. The fact that Cleveland Music Hall is a nice sounding room also helps. This is a great show with a very tasty setlist. The whole band is on, and Jerry never lets up, all the way from Melody through Tangled. Thanks to everyone involved. For the FOB AUD, thanks to the person who recorded it, to Dave Lisuch for the 2nd gen cassettes which Charlie Miller transfered, edited and coverted to FLAC; for the SBD, thanks to whoever recorded it, to Mike Lai for the original seed which jakemerc edited and converted to SHN. _________________________________________ Editing Notes: - Pitch/speed Both sources were pitched differently, the AUD being the sharpest or fastest. The AUD had to be pitched or slowed down between -.62 (62 cents) and -.79 (79 cents). This is almost a semitone (100 cents) difference. The SBD had to be pitched or slowed down between -.04 (4 cents) and -.10 (10 cents). - Synch Because of the speed fluctuation within a given source, multiple edits were performed to keep the sources synched (too many edits to list). - Sonic Quality/Matrix ratio The only dynamic processing I employed was Waves L2 (limiter) to the master 2 buss to keep things contained. All I was trying to do here is to add some dimension to the SBD by using the ambience of the AUD. The result is hopefully close to how it sounded at the show, albeit some phase is present. If I had to guess, the SBD/AUD ratio would be somewhere between 1.5:1 and 1:1, which has more AUD than usual, but I needed Garcia's guitar present which was coming primarily from the AUD. - Edits The following are places where the SBD and AUD had splices, holes or incomplete coverage in reference to the final matrix timeline. SBD: d1t01 (0:00 - 0:47) - missing (crowd) d1t02 (0:00 - 0:11) - missing d1t02 (13:48 - 13:55) - missing (crowd) d1t04 (7:39 - 7:46) - missing (crowd) d1t05 (12:26 - 12:27) - missing (crowd) d2t01 (14:44 - 14:45) - missing (crowd) d2t04 (0:00 - 0:07) - missing d2t05 (1:54 - 5:53) - missing AUD: d1t03>4 (8:19 - 0:02) - missing (tuning - 3 secs total) d1t06 (0:00 - 0:08) - missing d2t03 (8:07:44 - 8:07:53) - sub sec. tape warble/drop out (edited out) Note that a lot of the audio missing from the SBD is crowd noise from in between songs. Where there is music missing from either source, the other source covers those holes, thus full coverage has been achieved. The only major hole in the SBD is 4 minutes during Dear Prudence. _________________________________________ Shntool output: length expanded size cdr WAVE problems filename 0:48.18 8509580 --- -- ---xx jgb83-11-25d1t01.flac 13:54.38 147207020 --- -- ---xx jgb83-11-25d1t02.flac 8:20.63 88348220 --- -- ---xx jgb83-11-25d1t03.flac 7:45.63 82174220 --- -- ---xx jgb83-11-25d1t04.flac 12:27.63 131919020 --- -- ---xx jgb83-11-25d1t05.flac 6:31.22 69024188 --- -- ---xx jgb83-11-25d1t06.flac 4:52.03 51515900 --- -- ---xx jgb83-11-25d1t07.flac 15:04.38 159555020 --- -- ---xx jgb83-11-25d2t01.flac 10:21.22 109596188 --- -- ---xx jgb83-11-25d2t02.flac 9:32.27 100964348 --- -- ---xx jgb83-11-25d2t03.flac 8:53.51 94141196 --- -- ---xx jgb83-11-25d2t04.flac 13:16.39 140506172 --- -- ---xx jgb83-11-25d2t05.flac 11:59.61 126975116 --- -- ---xx jgb83-11-25d2t06.flac 123:48.58 1310436188 B (13 files, 0.6242 overall compression ratio) _________________________________________ FFP: jgb83-11-25d1t01.flac:bf78b90d7b5648c7fba3913ab5b54285 jgb83-11-25d1t02.flac:e204f176dd3fb1dafaca7b3fb55f27d7 jgb83-11-25d1t03.flac:172aed48436f4f2733dce28fc170a258 jgb83-11-25d1t04.flac:f83fdac2fba078eabda9a2bb27aa8890 jgb83-11-25d1t05.flac:9d73572ad1f6796173f74d9f8b27b9bb jgb83-11-25d1t06.flac:ca148fa2cd7e7c92d7d77c9e9dab71a0 jgb83-11-25d1t07.flac:c13bace0fa7cef58f5cc2ff1413aef0d jgb83-11-25d2t01.flac:ee9f2a78a3e1b524dcb00efb68fbccd7 jgb83-11-25d2t02.flac:04d6b77c791b7912241904434c7620ad jgb83-11-25d2t03.flac:1ea3bbcc6becd7f9a73fb2f98016e737 jgb83-11-25d2t04.flac:29b69a8151e166bd95f28f242ff24dc6 jgb83-11-25d2t05.flac:c5e6416c9e321a877ce8436d034b62e6 jgb83-11-25d2t06.flac:d763b37d997dac8a0dcca6bfb601595c _________________________________________ SBD Source text file: Jerry Garcia Band 11-25-1983 Cleveland Music Hall Cleveland, OH Source: SBD>? Disc 1: Set I 1. /I'll Take A Melody (13:32) 2. Cats Under The Stars (08:24) 3. They Love Each Other (07:43) 4. Knockin' On Heaven's Door (12:28) 5. /The Way You Do The Things You Do (06:30) 6. Run For The Roses (04:53) Total: (53:30) Disc 2: Set II 1. Sugaree (15:04) 2. Love In The Afternoon (10:17) 3. Rhapsody In Red (09:31) 4. /The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down (08:43) 5. Dear Prudence (09:24) 6. Tangled Up In Blue/ (11:50) Total: (64:49) / indicates a small fade, presumably for a analog tape flip. There's very little music missing. Notes: It appears from listening that there is applause/silence edited out between songs. Songs that flow into each other have no edits. I <jakemerc@attbi.com> rearranged the tracks so that set I is on disc 1 and set II is on disc 2. The original track arrangement, and text from info file, is at the bottom of this file. I also boosted the recording/volume level of each track 200%, taking the peak volume to mid-80 percent. ******** from www.thejerrysite.com ******** Comments: The beginning of Dixie Down and end of Tangled Up are cut. Recordings: 121 SBD (DAT: MSC>D) Contributors: Ryan Shriver ******** from www.thejerrysite.com ******** ORIGINAL TEXT FILE Jerry Garcia Band Music Hall Cleveland, Ohio 11-25-83 sdb CD1 1 i'll take a melody 2 cats down under the stars 3 they love each other 4 knockin' on heaven's door 5 the way you do the things you do 6 run for the roses 7 sugaree CD2 1 love in the afternoon 2 rhapsody in red 3 the night they drove old dixie down 4 dear prudence 5 tangled up in blue any info send to mike lai usalai@nycap.rr.com stellablue.etree.org _________________________________________ AUD Source text file: Jerry Garcia Band - November 25, 1983 Cleveland Music Hall, Cleveland, OH Recording Info: (FOB) Unknown Mics -> Master Cassette -> Cassette -> Cassette Transfer Info: Cassette (Sony TC-WE475) -> Sony R500 (Pass Through) -> SEK'D Prodif Plus -> Samplitude Professional v8.01 -> FLAC/16 (2 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) Transferred and Edited By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net February 8, 2006 Notes: -- Taped first or second row. -- Thanks to Dave Lisuch for the tapes. Set 1: d1t01 - I'll Take A Melody d1t02 - Cats Under The Stars d1t03 - They Love Each Other d1t04 - Knockin' On Heaven's Door d1t05 - The Way You Do The Things You Do d1t06 - Run For The Roses Set 2: d2t01 - Sugaree d2t02 - Love In The Afternoon d2t03 - Rhapsody In Red d2t04 - Night They Drove Old Dixie Down -> d2t05 - Dear Prudence -> d2t06 - Tangled Up In Blue SHNTOOL OUTPUT: length expanded size cdr WAVE probs filename 14:09.50 149881244 --- -- --- jgb83-11-25d1t01.wav 7:57.16 84180476 --- -- --- jgb83-11-25d1t02.wav 7:27.18 78893180 --- -- --- jgb83-11-25d1t03.wav 11:56.70 126467084 --- -- --- jgb83-11-25d1t04.wav 6:09.31 65164556 --- -- --- jgb83-11-25d1t05.wav 4:41.10 49591964 --- -- --- jgb83-11-25d1t06.wav 14:33.17 154037228 --- -- --- jgb83-11-25d2t01.wav 9:58.09 105508412 --- -- --- jgb83-11-25d2t02.wav 9:09.57 96977708 --- -- --- jgb83-11-25d2t03.wav 8:32.06 90330956 --- -- --- jgb83-11-25d2t04.wav 12:45.42 135044828 --- -- --- jgb83-11-25d2t05.wav 11:31.73 122064140 --- -- --- jgb83-11-25d2t06.wav 118:52.24 1258141776 B (totals for 12 files) _________________________________________
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Jerry Garcia Band 1983-11-25 Cleveland Music Hall, Cleveland, OH
Set 1I'll Take A Melody, Cats Under The Stars, They Love Each Other, Knockin' On Heaven's Door, The Way You Do The Things You Do, Run For The Roses
Set 2Sugaree, Love In The Afternoon, Rhapsody In Red, The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down, Dear Prudence, Tangled Up In Blue
Set 3
CommentJerry Garcia (Guitar, Vocals), John Kahn (Bass), Melvin Seals (Keyboards), Gloria Jones (Vocals), Jaclyn LaBranch (Vocals), David Kemper (Drums)