Ed Perlstein, who has archived collections by Nick Gravenites, Spencer Dryden, Steve Keyser (John Cipollina’s manager) and others, and who currently possesses John Cipollina’s personal tapes, was given the approval of John’s sister, Antonia, to share John’s live and studio outtake recordings in the interest of keeping his music alive for future generations.  Steve Keyser, who recorded most of John's live shows with several different bands while he was his manager, has allowed Ed to digitize his master cassettes, and to share them with John’s fans and collectors.

Charlie Kaiser has given us access to his soundboard masters.  He was the Front Of House soundman and recording engineer for virtually all of John's bands from about 1983 until his passing. This included Thunder and Lightning, Dinosaurs, Terry and The Pirates, Problem Child, and any of the spinoff bands.



Thunder And Lightning
Cancun Grill,
Tiburon, CA
01/20/1984


Source: sbd + 2 stage mics + vocal feed > Realistic 4 channel stereo mixer > cassette master (Sony TC-D5M / Maxell XLII-S 90)
Transfer: Nakamichi CR-7A > Tascam DA-3000 (DSF 1-bit/5.6MHz) > Tascam Hi-Res Editor > 24/96 wav
Lineage: wav 24/96 > iZotope RX 10 Advanced > iZotope Neytron 4 > CD Wave > flac24



Set I

tuning
Help Me
Down In The Bottom
Fantasy World
Small Walk-In Box
Mama Don't Allow
I Did It For The The Band
Four Floors Or Forty
Blues In My Bottle
My Party
Six Weeks In Reno
Outro (Dekalb Blues instrumental)


Set II

tuning
Killing Floor
Pride Of Man
Southside
Love Me Or I'll Kill You
Run Out Of West
You Can't Hurt Me No More
Just Because
Walkin' Blues
I'll Change Your Flat Tire Merl
Up To No Good
Going Down
Who Do You Love
Outro (Dekalb Blues instrumental)



Nick Gravenites - guitar, vocals
John Cipollina - guitar, vocals
Doug Kilmer - bass, vocals
Greg Elmore - drums




Source: recorded and mixed Charlie Kaiser
Transfer by Jim Blackwood
Pitch checked by Seth Kaplan
Addition editing and tagged by Mike Schuncke
Artwork by Bruno
Edited and Mastered SIRMick May 2024


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