Jerry Garcia 
afternoon of March 28, 1981
hotel room, Essen, Germany

This is a 48-minute recording of an informal conversation
between Jerry Garcia and Ayatolla H?bsch (?), held at
Garcia's hotel room in the afternoon before the Rockpalast show.

Topics include Illuminati books, islam and the Sikhs.
Somewhere in the middle the telephone rings. Jerry picks up
and talks to Brent for a moment. At the end H?bsch starts
singing a song to Jerry, who then accompanies him on an
acoustic guitar.

This recording saw minimal circulation when it was reportedly
sold in Germany in the 80s. Many thanks are due to Tilli for
obtaining a copy of the master cassette. I applied some denoising
in SoundForge; the sound is not optimal but still listenable.
I don't know much about H?bsch (who contributes at least as much
to the conversation as Garcia) except that he was a writer
and "beat poet" and he converted to islam in the late seventies.

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