Frost Amphitheatre, Palo Alto, CA
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flac24; 5.1 LPCM Surround Sound (48k) - Original 5.1 DVD-A (78681) DVD-AUDIO 24/48 SBD+AUD Matrix Mix (65%-SBD/20%-AUD1/15%-AUD2)Mix consisting of SBD - shn id 25467, AUD - shn id 32648 and AUD - shn id 76584 - extraction/flac/tagging by Kevin Tobin
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Grateful Dead Frost Amphitheatre Stanford University Palo Alto, CA April 27, 1985 5.1 LPCM Surround Sound Mix (48/24) Set 1: 01 - Bill Graham Intro 02 - Dancing In The Streets > 03 - Bertha 04 - Little Red Rooster 05 - Brown Eyed Women 06 - My Brother Esau 07 - Ramble On Rose 08 - Let Phil Sing 09 - Tom Thumb's Blues > 10 - Cold Rain And Snow > 11 - The Music Never Stopped Set 2: 12 - Scarlet Begonias > 13 - Eyes Of The World > 14 - Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad > 15 - Man Smart (Woman Are Smarter) > 16 - Drums > 17 - Space > 18 - The Wheel > 19 - Truckin' > 20 - The Other One > 21 - Black Peter > 22 - Around And Around > 23 - One More Saturday Night Encore 24 - Keep Your Day Job 25 - Bill Graham Outro Jerry Garcia - Guitar Bob Weir - Guitar Brent Mydland - Keyboards Phil Lesh - Bass Bill Kreutzmann - Drums Mickey Hart - Drums Note: Matt Vernon asked me if I could do something with Dan's original DVD-A discs and he sent me the AUDIO_TS files from the 3 .iso discs that were originally seeded. I have done nothing excepted extraced the wave files from the DVD and then Tracked/Flac'd/Tagged. --------------------------------------------------------- - DVD-A extraction 11-DEC-2019 - DVD Audio Extractor v8.0.0 - FLAC conversion 11-DEC-2019 - Trader Little Helper - Tagged 11-DEC-2019 - Tag&Rename --------------------------------------------------------- Original DVD-AUDIO 24/48 (shnid=78681) Circulated 10/3/2006 DVD-Audio ( 6ch x 24/48 ) 5.1 Mix (3 DVD version) --------------------------------------------------------- Source Info SBD SBD: Master Cassette > Dat (44.1k) (Sony R500) > SEK'D Prodif Plus > Samplitude v7.02 Professional -> CEPro v2.0 > SHN Transferred and Edited By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net AUD1 MAC: (FOB) Nak700 > Sony D5 > TDK MA90. Recorded by B.Koucky. MAC playback on Nak DR2 > Presonus Firebox > recorded as 24/96 WAV (Wavelab) > mastered/rendered to 16/44.1 KHz WAV using Waves L3 Multimaximizer > tracked/FLACd using CDWAV 1.9. Transfer and mastering by C.Ladner. AUD2 MAC: (FOB) Senn 421 > Sony D5 > TDK MA90 (Set I) & TDK MAR [aluminum core (Set II)] Mic Config: mics on T bar knee high pointed at the stacks MAC > Nakamichi Cassette Deck 2 (azimuth adjusted) > Audiophile 2496 > WinXP Pro > CEP 2.0 > CD Wave Editor > Flac Frontend (encoded@level 6) >FLAC16 Location: on the lawn, 25 feet from the stage, DFC Taper: Adam, Justin & Monica - Mark McCue Masters All cuts, fades and edits made in CEP 2.0, normalized to 100%. Sector boundaries verified with TLH. Transfer, minor editing and conversion by Alex Ford 3/10 & 11/2006. Thanks to all the hard work from the folks mentioned above in their loving care getting these sources out. Thanks also to the Lossless Legs Community (www.shnflac.net) for getting me these 3 spectacular sources. Also a thanks for some of the images used in creation of the artwork. I found them years ago on the net and do not have anyway to properly credit. --------------------------------------------------------- Tech Notes FLAC/SHNs were decoded to wave. Wavmerge was used to reassemble the tracks back to 1 long wave. CEP2.0 was used to align & synch all of the sources. SF8.0 was used to change sample rate on all sources to 48k. SF8.0 used to adjust the volume for the front, center, surround and LFE channels. SF8.0 was used for the EQ setting on all the sources post mixdown. SF8.0 was used to create all multichannel mixdown matrix mixes (phew) at 24/48. DiscWelder used to author and create the DVD-Audio in 5.1. This incorporates 6 channels of 24/48 wave files. - Mixed by dan@am-dig.com - FLAC conversion done 04-OCT-2006 - Artwork at 300dpi by dan@am-dig.com - For best results print at the highest resolution onto glossy photo paper. Design for 3 clear, slim DVD case. --------------------------------------------------------- DVD-Audio 5.1 Info Front Left Channel SBD+AUD DEQ'd Matrix 75%-SBD/25%-AUD2 Right Channel SBD+AUD DEQ'd Matrix 75%-SBD/25%-AUD2 Center Mono Mix -5db SBD DEQ'd Surround Left Channel AUD+AUD DEQ'd Matrix 60%-AUD1/40%-AUD2 Right Channel AUD+AUD DEQ'd Matrix 60%-AUD1/40%-AUD2 Sub/LFE Mono Mix -5db SBD DEQ'd Matrix 50%-SBD/50%-AUD2 --------------------------------------------------------- Notes After spending several months and likely more than 150 hrs on this project I rushed my way through this text file and the artwork. I just want to be done with it. Hopefully it will be acceptable and without too many typos or errors. This 5.1 mix utilizes 5 fully discrete channels. The SBD has a strange sound characteristic that can be heard through the first few songs and then disappears. As Charlie Miller noted in his text file "sounds keeps improving as show progresses". Which is indeed true. The sound keeps cycling from normal to "overly bright". Could it be a bad Dolby encode or decode scenario? Only when you listening very critically. It does not subtract from these really great recordings and great show IMO. Both AUD recordings are very good. The Nak700 sounds like it was on a stand and doesn't have the close crowd feeling of a typical FOB. Some post-processing was obviously done to maximize the levels, which does cut down a bit on the dynamic range. The Senn 421 has a much rowdier feel with closer crowd, clapping and a good feel for a live show. All 3 sources had different stoppages between songs in the first set, most notably was during "Let Phil Sing". Here we had missing "crowd" material with no overlap. I employ several techniques, fades, crossfades, volume changes and "borrowing" crowd cheer from different parts of the same recording to fill in the sound and make the new recording flow uninterrupted. Take a listen to the first set, the missing material now flows smooth and is most likely undetectable. d1t01 "Bill Graham Intro" The first 20 seconds is entirely from the NAK700 source, then the Senn 421 source fades in and then finally the SBD also joins the mix. No music was missing. This is smooth and is most likely undetectable. d2t01 "Scarlet Begonias" The first 10 seconds is just the SBD and the NAK700 source, then the Senn 421 source fades in and also joins the mix. This is smooth and is most likely undetectable. d2t09 "The Other One" 36.334 seconds of "fake" patch was used to cover a missing part of the SBD source. Most likely a repeating musical portion from earlier in the song was used. In short, "The Other One" was patch with the very same "The Other One". This was a very tricky edit to find and remove. It is now patched with a matrix mix of AUD1 and AUD2 for 1:00.119 with 2 second crossfade on each. B/c this is a change in source it is detectable by the listener. d2t14 "Bill Graham Otro" is entirely from the NAK700 source. The mixdown of the AUD+AUD matrix mix was done a few db's lower than the from SBD+AUD matrix mix. In my experience louder rear channels is an undiserable effect. --------------------------------------------------------- Multitrack Mixdown Settings SET ONE Front Matrix SBD -.5 AUD2 -7 Stereo Matrix SBD -1 AUD2 -5.5 Rear Matrix AUD1 -4 AUD2 -9 Sub/LFE Matrix SBD -7db AUD2 -5.5db SET TWO Front Matrix SBD -1 AUD2 -7.5 Stereo Matrix SBD -1 AUD2 -6 Rear Matrix AUD1 -4 AUD2 -9 Sub/LFE Matrix SBD -7.5db AUD2 -6db --------------------------------------------------------- Editorial Comments This show is like a wearing my favorite slippers. Familiar and very comfortable. I first obtained this show in 1985 about 2 weeks after the show. I was a new 16 yr. old driver and was giving a "friend of a friend" a ride in my car. This guy was a pretty hard core hippie and he produced the cassette of the second set. I was floored. At the time, and considering my age, I had no idea anyone could get a copy of a show THAT fast. And what a show it is. Needless to say the next five years or so were spent wearing out that cassette. This show is most notable for the only "Scarlet > Eyes" but is loaded with great renditions, sick jamming and inspired playing. The first set songs are all played really well. The final Tom Thumb > Cold Rain > Music is fantastic. Phil is just out-of-hand throughout. 'Nuff said. This Scarlet is my favorite, period. A bold statement but one I can stand tall behind. Great long intro, nice middle of the song solo, they come around twice (I LOVE THAT!) before the Wind in The Willows but the ensuing jam towards Fire is inspired. Brent chasing Jerry, Brent chasing Bob. Jerry is traveling 100 miles an hour and the band is right behind. A real nice Fire tease and Jerry picks his moment to lead the gang into Eyes. WOW! Eyes is also full of spit and fire with too many acid laced licks to count. Even GDTRFB is fast paced and fun, with Woman still keeping your interest. Isn't that a change? Not the longest pre-drums, 40+ mins, but understandable as clearly Garcia needed to soak his hand in ice. Normally topping an all Garcia tri-fecta to opened set two, Scarlet > Eyes > GDTRFB, would be hard to beat, beat it they do, beat it to death. The next 45+ mins is transcendental, perfect, seamless, inspired, rocking/soothing and any other accolade you can toss in for good measure. This time a new tri-fecta, Truckin' > Other One > Black Peter, takes center stage in the post drums part. Note by note, second by second the band just clicks. It reminds me of the type of playing they were capable of during 2/27-28, 3/1-2 when the band was just so in tune with each other and what they are doing. While clearly much different, take a listen. These guys are so tuned in to what each other is doing it is 6 as 1. --------------------------------------------------------- More On DVD-Audio 5.1 Today's audio standards are moving towards multi-channel sound, like DTS, Dolby Digital, SACD and DVD-A. You will need a DVD-Audio compatible DVD player to listen to this 5.1 mix. Burning Instructions Use DVD Decryptor or similar program to burn as an image file (ISO) onto a DVDR. Enjoy. This represents the 24 bit files that are the result of all my editing and the multitrack mixdown preserved in 24 bit. It is unclear exactly what we have in the way of high resolution. However it seems what we have here would not be represented accurately in 16/44. What you are getting is the full result of the matrix mix process. How much different does this sound? is this better? A little and yes. This is more accurate and has more dynamic range. 24/48 resolution versus a 16/44 of the same material will usually result in very subtle but important differences. Most of it relying on the quality ofthe DVD-A player and the D to A conversion. With that in mind, this 24 bit copy is no different. Small but important gains over the same material in 16/44. This is just one man's take. Take it or leave it. --------------------------------------------------------- Additional Formats This show is available in the following formats: 1. The SBD and both AUD sources listed above. 2. CD-Audio SBD+AUD Matrix Mix at 16/44 3. CD-Audio 5.1 Surround Sound DTS-Audio-CD at 16/44 4. DVD-Audio SBD+AUD Matrix Mix at 24/48 5. DVD-Audio 5.1 Surround Sound at 24/48 --------------------------------------------------------- High Rez 300dpi Artwork Included Enjoy, Dan :thumbsup:
Media Size
4.48 GB(4805623297 bytes)
Media Size Uncompressed
7.42 GB(7970531404 bytes)
SHN Disc Count
0
WAV Disc Count
0
Date Circulated
12/11/2019
Entered By
mvernon
Created At
Wed Dec 11 2019 20:40:11 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time)
Updated At
Sat Dec 14 2019 17:22:10 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time)
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