SHNID 105774 Grateful Dead Compilations 1939-??-??
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{DttC024} 1972-08-27, 09-28, 11-19: Veneta, Jersey City, Houston [SHNIDs 3328, 26933, 17705]
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Grateful Dead
08/27/72
Old Renaissance Fairground, Veneta OR
Lineage:
SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC->
Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)->
Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift
of +19 cents)
David Gans seeded the show (SBD->MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR).
Adam Jerugim obtained a CDR copy, EAC\'d and uploaded it to orf.cx.
Leigh Orf did all the post-processing (Sound Forge stuff).
Note: This is *not* the Betty Board source which has circulated before.
This source came from a different two-track master reel (made by the
folks filming the Sunshine Daydream movie) and is mixed differently.
Disc 1
Set 1
1. [ 4:14.13] Stage Announcements
2. [ 3:36.65] The Promised Land
3. [ 9:15.23] Sugaree
4. [ 3:27.26] Me And My Uncle
5. [ 4:40.57] Deal
6. [ 7:10.26] Black Throated Wind
7. [15:05.18] China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider
8. [ 3:43.36] Mexicali Blues
9. [ 5:53.40] Bertha
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57:07.04
Disc 2
Set 2
1. [18:38.49] Playin\' In The Band *
2. [ 2:20.74] Stage Announcements
3. [ 8:45.74] He\'s Gone
4. [ 0:32.22] Stage Chatter
5. [ 5:04.35] Jack Straw
6. [12:33.67] Bird Song @
7. [ 0:28.24] Stage Announcements
8. [ 5:32.18] Greatest Story Ever Told
--------
53:56.63
Disc 3
Set 3
1. [ 0:58.05] Stage Announcements
2. [31:13.05] Dark Star ->
3. [ 5:19.02] El Paso
4. [10:25.61] Sing Me Back Home
5. [ 0:48.32] Stage Announcements
6. [ 8:30.16] Sugar Magnolia $
7. [ 2:06.40] Stage Announcements
8. [ 6:12.02] Casey Jones
9. [ 5:26.43] One More Saturday Night
10. [ 6:24.10] Stage Announcements &
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77:23.66
Footnotes:
* First 57 seconds spliced from Betty Reel (Gans)
@ At about 6:50 two seconds spliced from Betty Reel (Orf)
$ Piano distortion starting at 5:05 is on original reel
(somewhat cleaned up by Orf)
& Stage Announcements can be eliminated to fit disc 3 on a 74 min CD-R
General Comments:
In all the circulating copies of this show I\'ve heard, including
this one, small analog pops were scattered throughout. I believe
they originated at the soundboard or from one of the band member\'s
instruments. I edited out about 100 of these (hopefully all of them)
with the Sound Forge pencil tool. Click removal software was not smart
enough to find and fix these particular pops.
I noticed as I was listening to this show that it sounded kind of
flat/sour/sluggish. When I finally sat down to give it a thorough
listen, I noticed that there was a definite speed change where Betty
source entered the new source 57 seconds into Playin\'. I determined by
using a handheld tuner and the spectrum analyzer of Sound Forge that
the Betty reel was in tune and that the new source was slow (primarily
tuning the show to where the band is tuning after Sugaree; I made Phil\'s
A3 tune to exactly 220 Hz). Happily, by \"tuning\" (speeding up) the new
source, everything sounds \"right\" and the transition from the Betty
source into this source in Playin\' no longer had that audible speed
slowdown. I did a pitch shift of +19 cents on all of the show (except
the first 57 seconds of Playin\') which effectively \"played the original
reel a little faster\". Shntool was used to fix the track boundaries
which were now off due to the pitch shift (all the wav files were
shorter).
I was able to make the piano overmodulation distortion starting about
five minutes into Sugar Magnolia slightly more palatable by pulling out
the high frequency components of the distortion using the Sound Forge
Click Removal algorithm and some hand editing. It still sounds bad, but
distortion of this nature is nearly impossible to fix.
Finally, some comments about how this show sounds different from the
Betty source. This reel was originated from the folks who were filming
the Sunshine Daydream movie. The movie source sounds \"clearer\"; there
is a better defined high end which leads to a less \"veiled\" sound than
the Betty source. Vocals and high-hat sound clearer and higher in the
mix. Bass is mixed lower; the low bass is especially thin on the movie
source, while the mid-bass is fine. The Betty source, to my ears, sounds
more \"veiled\" than the new source, and more bassy. The movie source
has more tape hiss than the Betty source, but it\'s hiss only from the
original reel. My guess is the Betty reels used some form of noise
reduction (Dolby A?) while the movie source did not. In my opinion, this
is the best sounding version of this show currently circulating.
Enjoy, and feel free to send comments my way. Thanks again to David Gans
and Adam Jerugim for making this possible.
Leigh Orf
<a href=\"http://orf.cx\">http://orf.cx</a>
written March 10, 2001
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188:27.58 1994692404 B 0.5336 (27 files)
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Grateful Dead
9-28-72
Stanley Theater
Jersey City, NJ
Primary Source: SBD>MR>DAT>CDR>WAV>SHN>WAV>FLAC.
Secondary source: Unknown audience > C > ? > DAT >WAV > FLAC.
See note about alternative tracking below.
Disc 1 - Set 1
01 Truckin\'
02 Loser
03 Beat it on down the line
04 Brown-Eyed Women
05 Mexicali Blues
06 Mississippi Half-step
07 Black-Throated Wind
08 Don\'t Ease Me In
09 Big River
10 Tennessee Jed
11 Promised Land
12 China Cat Sunflower >
13 I Know You Rider
Disc 2 - Set 1 (cont\'d)
01. Playin\' In The Band
Set 2
02 Bertha>>
03 Greatest story ever told
04 Brokedown palace
05 Me & my uncle
06 Ramble on rose
07 Tuning
08 El Paso
09 He\'s Gone >
Disc 3 - Set 2 (cont\'d)
01 Drums >
02 The Other One >
03 Jam >
04 Me & Bobby Magee >
05 The Other One >
06 Wharf Rat
07 Sugar Magnolia
08 Not Fade Away > Going Down The Road > Not Fade Away
Original SBD source via previously circulated SHNs <a href=\"http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=12657\">http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=12657</a>
Audience splice material provided by Uli Teute via Jim Powell.
Comments/flaws:
d1t01 - Truckin\' completely absent from all previous sources; from audience.
d1t02 - muted vocals for 1st ~5:50 of Loser - on all copies.
d1t06 - missing 01:52 seconds of Half Step starting at \"Across the rio grand-e-o... (04:00) spliced from audience source
d1t11 - splice from audience source completes the cut in IKYR.
d2t03 - removed short redundancy 05:23.4 - 05:45.7.
d3t05 - Fixed pop at 0:24.4 & 26.9 due to L&R channel inversion & dropout at 12:27.1
d3t06 - Removed 0.77 sec dropout at 0:48.3
Also the show is now tracked in order with the encore at the end of disc 3.
*** ALTERNATIVE TRACKING ***
Even though the entire show can be burnt in order on 3 80 minute discs, it has been recommended by Jim Powell that it is aesthetically better to burn the shows on 4 discs.
disc 1 - unchanged.
disc 2 - last track ends up being El Paso (second to last track as above).
disc 3 - starts out with last track of \"d2\" - \"He\'s Gone - and runs through Wharf Rat.
disc 4 - Sugar Mag > NFA > GDTRFB > NFA.
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220:25.14 2332924248 B (totals for 30 files)
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Grateful Dead
Hofheinz Pavillion
Houston, TX
11-19-72
Source: SBD>MR>Reel>Reel>DAT>CD>EAC>WAV>CoolEdit2000>SHN
(Note that there is speculation that this source may contain only one reel generation.)
DISC 1
Set 1
1. Bertha
2. Me & My Uncle
3. Sugaree
4. Beat It On Down The Line
5. Bird Song
6. Black Throated Wind
7. Don\'t Ease Me In
8. Mexicali Blues
9. Box Of Rain
10. Tomorrow Is Forever
11. Big River
12. China Cat Sunflower >
13. I Know You Rider
DISC 2
1. Nickelodeon Tuning
2. Playin\' In The Band
3. Casey Jones
Set 2
4. Promised Land
5. Ramble On Rose
6. El Paso
7. //Stella Blue
8. Jack Straw
Disc 3
1. Dark Star > Weather Report Suite Prelude >
2. Mississippi Half Step
3. Around & Around
4. Big Railroad Blues
5. Tuning
6. Sugar Magnolia >
7. Goin\' Down The Road Feelin\' Bad
Notes:
- There are sound/mix adjustments during Bertha.
- The first 0:55 of Me & My Uncle was amplified by 3db due to low levels.
- There is a cut in Rider at 0:14 with part of the first chorus missing.
- There is a cut in Playin at 0:09 with the very first line of \"Some folks trust in reason\" missing.
- First few notes of Stella Blue are missing.
- A splice in Dark Star at 28:19 was smoothed with a cross-fade.
- In Dark Star from approximately 25:25 to 28:19 Phil\'s bass almost completely disappears. Cool Edit\'s FFT Filter was used to boost the frequency range between 25hz and 375hz. This was partially effective as the time interval from 25:35 to 26:47 apparently contains no bass frequencies.
- Mississippi Half Step was amplified by 2db due to low levels.
- A few minor pops & clicks were removed.
EAC in secure mode, offset corrected. All processing/edits performed with Cool Edit 2000. Disc retracking with CDWave. Seekable shorten encoding with MKW. Sector boundaries verified with shntool. D.Winters - 11/30/02.
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191:20.38 1931.35 MB (totals for 28 files)
Media Size
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Media Size Uncompressed
0
SHN Disc Count
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WAV Disc Count
0
Date Circulated
08/05/08
Entered By
mvernon
Created At
Mon Feb 01 2010 12:22:04 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time)
Updated At
Mon Feb 01 2010 12:41:04 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time)
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