Smashing Pumpkins 1989-??-??
Early Demos, Chicago, IL
Set 1
Demo tape 1
01. HoneySpider(alternate)
02. With you
03. Egg
04. Rhinoserous(alternate)
05. By June
06. Stars Fallin
07. Daughter
08. Daydream
09. Psychodelic
Demo Tape 2
10. Laim
11. Bury Me
12. Day Dream
13. Not Worth Asking
14. Honeyspder (electric)
15. Rhinoseraus (electric)
16. Hypnotised
17. C'mon Motherfucker
01. HoneySpider(alternate)
02. With you
03. Egg
04. Rhinoserous(alternate)
05. By June
06. Stars Fallin
07. Daughter
08. Daydream
09. Psychodelic
Demo Tape 2
10. Laim
11. Bury Me
12. Day Dream
13. Not Worth Asking
14. Honeyspder (electric)
15. Rhinoseraus (electric)
16. Hypnotised
17. C'mon Motherfucker
Set 2
7" singles etc
01. I Am One
02. Not Worth Asking (limeted Potential 1990)
03. Tristessa
04. La Dolly Vita (Sub Pop 1990)
05. Jackie Blue (pravda 1991)
06. Landslide (Stevie Nicks)
07. Dancing In The Moonlight (Phil Lynott)
08. Disarm (Alan Moulder Mix)
09. 1979 (Edit Version)
10. Razor
11. Tristessa
12. I Am One (Live USA 1993)
01. I Am One
02. Not Worth Asking (limeted Potential 1990)
03. Tristessa
04. La Dolly Vita (Sub Pop 1990)
05. Jackie Blue (pravda 1991)
06. Landslide (Stevie Nicks)
07. Dancing In The Moonlight (Phil Lynott)
08. Disarm (Alan Moulder Mix)
09. 1979 (Edit Version)
10. Razor
11. Tristessa
12. I Am One (Live USA 1993)
Set 3
Comment
(disc 1)
* Directly from the OffTopicMan tree. This quote was taken from the tree web page,
"Taken from a 12 year old DAT. There's a blip of diginoise in "East (alt.)" and the Organ
solo in "Rhinoceros" seems to have a loop where the same 8 seconds repeat themselves."
* The sessions were obtained by OffTopicMan and two other individuals in CDR format from
Mike Potential (confirmed by Dave Asselin) for 0, these individuals then decided to create
the tree in order to end Mike Potentials profiteering. This was deduced from the fact that Billy
has the master tape, Potential has DDC-1, and DA has a DDC-2; and seeing as BC and DA
know they didn't give it out it must have been Potential. Furthermore, OffTopicMan listed the
source info as DDC-1.
* These sessions spawned both the second demo tape Moon, and what is known as the
Gish Basement Tape, a promotional cassette used for bookings and label solicitation in
1989 and 1990. A few others were officially released elsewhere: I Am One and Not Worth
Asking appeared on the Limited Potential 7"; Bye June was officially released on the
Lull EP and was also included on Moon; Daughter was released on the Reflex
Magazine flexi-disc and also included on Moon. Two versions of Honeyspider were
recorded: a distorted, rocking version was released on the Tristessa 12" and a quieter,
clean-toned version was put on Moon, and later on the Pisces Iscariot bonus 7".
Just as well, two unreleased versions of Rhinoceros were recorded: an odd version
with an organ solo played by Mark Ignoffo was put on Moon, and a version closer
to the Gish album version was put on the Gish Basement Tape.
(disc 2)
* The sessions were obtained by OffTopicMan and two other individuals in CDR format from
Mike Potential (confirmed by Dave Asselin) for 0, these individuals then decided to
create the tree in order to end Mike Potentials profiteering. This was deduced from the
fact that Billy has the master tape, Potential has DDC-1, and DA has a DDC-2; and seeing
as BC and DA know they didn't give it out it must have been Potential. Furthermore OffTopicMan
listed the source info as STU>DDC-1>CDR.
* This session was booked to record live-only favorites such as Razor and I Am My End.
Unfortunately Jimmy didn't show up and, since the studio time was prepaid, it morphed
into an acoustic session. This was noted as a sloppy session with many false starts.
D'Arcy was present but did not perform.
* The three extra tracks are from a compilation tape made in late 1989, there is a debate
as to what the tape is actually called, it is reffered to as the Ignoffo Tape or Gish/881005
or any number of things, a description of the tape states that one side is labeled "Gish" and
the other "10/5/88 Metro." The tape has 22 songs on it, mainly featuring recordings from the
Summer '89 RTS and 10/05/88 and five songs from the Gish Basement Tapes. "Nothing and
Everything's" date is unknown, for the time being.
* Directly from the OffTopicMan tree. This quote was taken from the tree web page,
"Taken from a 12 year old DAT. There's a blip of diginoise in "East (alt.)" and the Organ
solo in "Rhinoceros" seems to have a loop where the same 8 seconds repeat themselves."
* The sessions were obtained by OffTopicMan and two other individuals in CDR format from
Mike Potential (confirmed by Dave Asselin) for 0, these individuals then decided to create
the tree in order to end Mike Potentials profiteering. This was deduced from the fact that Billy
has the master tape, Potential has DDC-1, and DA has a DDC-2; and seeing as BC and DA
know they didn't give it out it must have been Potential. Furthermore, OffTopicMan listed the
source info as DDC-1.
* These sessions spawned both the second demo tape Moon, and what is known as the
Gish Basement Tape, a promotional cassette used for bookings and label solicitation in
1989 and 1990. A few others were officially released elsewhere: I Am One and Not Worth
Asking appeared on the Limited Potential 7"; Bye June was officially released on the
Lull EP and was also included on Moon; Daughter was released on the Reflex
Magazine flexi-disc and also included on Moon. Two versions of Honeyspider were
recorded: a distorted, rocking version was released on the Tristessa 12" and a quieter,
clean-toned version was put on Moon, and later on the Pisces Iscariot bonus 7".
Just as well, two unreleased versions of Rhinoceros were recorded: an odd version
with an organ solo played by Mark Ignoffo was put on Moon, and a version closer
to the Gish album version was put on the Gish Basement Tape.
(disc 2)
* The sessions were obtained by OffTopicMan and two other individuals in CDR format from
Mike Potential (confirmed by Dave Asselin) for 0, these individuals then decided to
create the tree in order to end Mike Potentials profiteering. This was deduced from the
fact that Billy has the master tape, Potential has DDC-1, and DA has a DDC-2; and seeing
as BC and DA know they didn't give it out it must have been Potential. Furthermore OffTopicMan
listed the source info as STU>DDC-1>CDR.
* This session was booked to record live-only favorites such as Razor and I Am My End.
Unfortunately Jimmy didn't show up and, since the studio time was prepaid, it morphed
into an acoustic session. This was noted as a sloppy session with many false starts.
D'Arcy was present but did not perform.
* The three extra tracks are from a compilation tape made in late 1989, there is a debate
as to what the tape is actually called, it is reffered to as the Ignoffo Tape or Gish/881005
or any number of things, a description of the tape states that one side is labeled "Gish" and
the other "10/5/88 Metro." The tape has 22 songs on it, mainly featuring recordings from the
Summer '89 RTS and 10/05/88 and five songs from the Gish Basement Tapes. "Nothing and
Everything's" date is unknown, for the time being.
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