Frank Zappa 1971-06-??
Unknown, Unknown, Unknown
Set 1
solos
Studebaker Hoch/Don't Fuck Around (JABFLA, with solos)
solos
Studebaker Hoch/Don't Fuck Around (JABFLA, with solos)
solos
Set 2
Set 3
Comment
Fillmore East, June 1971 Double Album
Just Another Band from LA Double Album (?)
From Biffy the Elephant Shrew:
Zappa did have plans for a double-LP version of Fillmore ... it would have included "Billy the Mountain" from the Fillmore (presumably the same version that's on Playground Psychotics) and the John & Yoko jam on the other two sides.
From an anonymous trader:
Yes, it's in circulation, though a very limited such. And will have to remain that way, I'm afraid. So-called "no-trade items" have always existed among collectors ... Believe me, I'd love to see it circulate widely, but it's been given to me in confidence, with a promise not to spread it. A track listing would look extremely simple, like "Jam / Studebaker Hoch [a part of "Billy the Mountain" - Ed.] /Jam". Right now, though, I'm trying to find out ... if what I have on that tape really is the planned second Fillmore East LP. I'm actually thinking more and more that it's a second Just Another Band from LA LP.
From Jon Naurin:
We don't know for sure what was supposed to be on LP 1, but most certainly, it was not identical to the 1-LP Just Another Band from LA that was released, since, as you say, this would mean that some material would be repeated. My guess is that the double would look something like this:
Side A: "Billy the Mountain", part 1 (19:41)
Side B: "Call Any Vegetable"; "Eddie, Are You Kidding?"; "Magdalena"; "Dog Breath" (20:35)
Side C: solos (20:21)
Side D: "Billy the Mountain", part 2; solos (19:12)
The full "Billy the Mountain" from the Pauley Pavilion August7 1971 concert is over 33 minutes long, which surely was more than Frank wanted to stuff onto one LP side. Eventually, his solution to this problem was to edit out the two solos from the "Studebaker Hoch" section, but let's say that his original intention was to keep the solos, and split "Billy the Mountain" into two parts: part 1 (19:41) ending with "OUT OF THE PARKING LOT, AND INTO THE SKY!" (now, that's what I call a cliffhanger!), and part 2 (13:55) starting with "Studebaker Hoch".
NINJA: my gut instinct tells me that this is from the same show as the lennon concert
JON NAURIN: You mean the solos on side A [C?], and the ones after "Studebaker Hoch"? I haven't checked it closely, but I'm pretty sure none of them is from the Pauley Pavilion show. So yes, it's quite likely that it's from Fillmore East.
From Biffy the Elephant Shrew:
Zappa did say somewhere that he had planned to make the Fillmore album a double, but the second disc would have consisted of the Lennon jam on one side and "Billy The Mountain" on the other ... The reason for scuttling the second disc of the Fillmore LP was trouble with Lennon's business manager, Allen Klein - this is why the Lennon jam ended up on a John & Yoko album at the time, but not on a Zappa album until two decades later.
From John Naurin's page:
1971, Just Another Band From L.A, 2nd LP
40 min, A
It has been widely debated whether this was supposed to be the second LP of Fillmore East June 1971 or JABFLA.
01. solos
02. Studebaker Hoch/Don't Fuck Around (JABFLA, with solos)
03. solos
i have no idea of the source of this. i got the cd from a friend. it's obviously taken from some sort of vinyl-pressing, and it sounds great.
K
Just Another Band from LA Double Album (?)
From Biffy the Elephant Shrew:
Zappa did have plans for a double-LP version of Fillmore ... it would have included "Billy the Mountain" from the Fillmore (presumably the same version that's on Playground Psychotics) and the John & Yoko jam on the other two sides.
From an anonymous trader:
Yes, it's in circulation, though a very limited such. And will have to remain that way, I'm afraid. So-called "no-trade items" have always existed among collectors ... Believe me, I'd love to see it circulate widely, but it's been given to me in confidence, with a promise not to spread it. A track listing would look extremely simple, like "Jam / Studebaker Hoch [a part of "Billy the Mountain" - Ed.] /Jam". Right now, though, I'm trying to find out ... if what I have on that tape really is the planned second Fillmore East LP. I'm actually thinking more and more that it's a second Just Another Band from LA LP.
From Jon Naurin:
We don't know for sure what was supposed to be on LP 1, but most certainly, it was not identical to the 1-LP Just Another Band from LA that was released, since, as you say, this would mean that some material would be repeated. My guess is that the double would look something like this:
Side A: "Billy the Mountain", part 1 (19:41)
Side B: "Call Any Vegetable"; "Eddie, Are You Kidding?"; "Magdalena"; "Dog Breath" (20:35)
Side C: solos (20:21)
Side D: "Billy the Mountain", part 2; solos (19:12)
The full "Billy the Mountain" from the Pauley Pavilion August7 1971 concert is over 33 minutes long, which surely was more than Frank wanted to stuff onto one LP side. Eventually, his solution to this problem was to edit out the two solos from the "Studebaker Hoch" section, but let's say that his original intention was to keep the solos, and split "Billy the Mountain" into two parts: part 1 (19:41) ending with "OUT OF THE PARKING LOT, AND INTO THE SKY!" (now, that's what I call a cliffhanger!), and part 2 (13:55) starting with "Studebaker Hoch".
NINJA: my gut instinct tells me that this is from the same show as the lennon concert
JON NAURIN: You mean the solos on side A [C?], and the ones after "Studebaker Hoch"? I haven't checked it closely, but I'm pretty sure none of them is from the Pauley Pavilion show. So yes, it's quite likely that it's from Fillmore East.
From Biffy the Elephant Shrew:
Zappa did say somewhere that he had planned to make the Fillmore album a double, but the second disc would have consisted of the Lennon jam on one side and "Billy The Mountain" on the other ... The reason for scuttling the second disc of the Fillmore LP was trouble with Lennon's business manager, Allen Klein - this is why the Lennon jam ended up on a John & Yoko album at the time, but not on a Zappa album until two decades later.
From John Naurin's page:
1971, Just Another Band From L.A, 2nd LP
40 min, A
It has been widely debated whether this was supposed to be the second LP of Fillmore East June 1971 or JABFLA.
01. solos
02. Studebaker Hoch/Don't Fuck Around (JABFLA, with solos)
03. solos
i have no idea of the source of this. i got the cd from a friend. it's obviously taken from some sort of vinyl-pressing, and it sounds great.
K
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